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Yeah the vanilla levelling system is a real pain. If you're installing on an existing game, you'll need the new version that we're testing now.

 

I know, right? Managed to gain 3 levels, not too quickly and not too slowly. The system is not too different to Fallout 3's, in fact.

 

Oh, I've installed it for a new game :)

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I'll update the documentation once I release the new version.

Have you thought about it to have a wiki page for OblivionXP similar to what Better Cities has today when you release the new version. :)

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Version 4.3.2 has been released. Here's the list of changes:

 

Version 4.3.2

  • updated all string files (including translations) to report latest version of mod
  • revised initialization message when player installs mod on existing game
  • fixed bug where all attribute and skill points couldn't be spent when adding Oblivion XP to existing game, or level-up menu for initialization didn't appear at all.
  • removed Oblivion XP's version of hud_reticle.xml for DarNified and DarkUId DarN. The overrides Oblivion XP was making to this menu are no longer required. NOTE: you'll need to anneal your BAIN packages for DarNified or DarkUId DarN so that the hud_reticle.xml file is replaced. If you installed with OBMM or manually, you'll have to reinstall DarNified or DarkUId DarN, then install Oblivion XP.
  • removed unused template files from Core - Menus folder
  • added attribute and skill descriptions to level-up menu.
  • created new font and changed progress display text on HUD to use it. New font also used for attribute and skill descriptions in level-up menu.
  • stopped level-up menu from opening before game was completely initialized when loading from desktop.
  • implemented forli's fix for progress bar not being updated properly.
  • fixed poison kill script again. Now checking if enemy is dead already in finish block. Also moved call to onDeath event handler to prevent multiple calls and therefore multiple point awards.
  • added new interoperability variables for Sneaking Detection Recalibrated (SDR).
  • added SDR version check code
  • defined version variable for Oblivion XP
  • defined custom handler to process poison kill user event dispatch from SDR
  • revised Oblivion XP's initialization to detect SDR and adjust poison settings appropriately
  • fixed bug where you would get two kill awards if you killed a weak creature with a poisoned weapon
  • changed sneaking multiplier to a float variable to allow fractions


 

Download links are in the first post of this thread.

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Hey. This mod crashes on the first time level up prompt on my loadgame. 

My load order

 

Active Mod Files:


00  Oblivion.esm
01  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 1.34]
02  A_Bloody_Mess.esm
03  HorseCombatMaster.esm
04  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.2.0]
05  All Natural.esp  [Version 1.35]
06  Immersive Interiors.esp  [Version 0.8.1]
07  HAZdynamicSnow.esp
08  Better Water-1830.esp
09  Realistic Water.esp
0A  Symphony of Violence.esp
0B  PCSoundRhett.esp  [Version 2.6]
0C  Sounds of Cyrodiil.esp  [Version 1.1]
0D  All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [Version 1.35]
0E  IlluminationWithin.esp
0F  WindowLightingSystem.esp
10  AliveWaters.esp
11  AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp
12  AliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.esp
13  Added Realistic NPC's v1.0.esp
14  BBB Better Bouncing Bread Loafs.esp
15  Book Jackets Oblivion.esp
16  ChaseCameraMod.esp
17  ClocksOfCyrodiil.esp
18  Cyrodilic Brandy.esp
19  ImprovedSigns.esp
1A  Inebriation.esp
1B  P1DseeYouSleep.esp
1C  ReneerVariedNPCsMod.esp
1D  Update My Statue.esp  [Version 1.30]
1E  VA_BetterGold.esp
1F  Crowded Roads Revisited.esp  [Version 1.1]
20  DropLitTorchOBSE.esp  [Version 2.4]
21  Get Wet v0.92.esp
22  Streamline 3.1.esp
23  Map Marker Overhaul.esp  [Version 3.9.3]
24  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
25  EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer.esp
26  CM_Better Wine.esp
27  console codes.esp
28  RustyItems.esp
29  DLCThievesDen.esp
2A  Alluring Potion Bottles v3.esp
2B  Creature Diversity.esp
2C  ARS.esp
2D  Better Lava by elveon.esp
2E  Real Lava 1.3.esp
2F  Better Bookshelves In Buyable Houses.esp
30  Birthsign Zero.esp
31  CoverYourself.esp
32  Cliff_BetterLetters.esp  [Version 1.2]
33  EVE_ShiveringIslesEasterEggs.esp
34  HelmetFOV.esp
35  Improved Fires and Flames - Increased Sound.esp
36  ImprovedSoulgems.esp  [Version 1.11]
37  P1DkeyChain.esp  [Version 5.00]
38  ReneerNPCNameMod.esp
39  RenCorpseMod.esp
3A  kuerteeGoldIsAnInventoryItem.esp
3B  Sexlivion_0.4a_Full_English_v1.esp
3C  Short Grass V3.esp
3D  SkycaptainsBloodTime.esp
3E  Lynges Unlimited Death Reload Time.esp
3F  Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp
40  Realistic Zero-Weight Items.esp
41  Basic Physical Activities.esp  [Version 1.3]
42  RealisticForceMedium.esp
43  RealisticMagicForceMedium.esp
44  RealSleepExtended.esp  [Version 2.5]
45  Soolie'sBetterEnchantmentEffects.esp
46  RenGuardOverhaul.esp
47  'Eagle Eye' Realistic Archery v1.0 Fixed.esp  [Version 1.0]
48  Deadly Reflex 6 - Timed Block and 250% damage.esp
49  Mounted_Spellcasting_Deadly_Reflex_Compatible.esp
4A  Oblivion XP.esp
4B  actors_in_charge.esp
4C  SP1stPLegs.esp
4D  EVE_KhajiitFix.esp
4E  Oblivion_Character_Overhaul.esp  [Version 2.0]
4F  omg-dynamicDoF.esp
50  omg-staticDoF.esp
51  UVII.esp
52  DeadlyReflex 6 - Combat Moves.esp
53  Deadly Reflex 6 - HeX NifSE Patch.esp
54  Sexlivion-ForBP2ch.esp
55  Realist Cuff Mod.esp
56  Realistic_Weighted_Armor.esp
57  TML_Real-time.esp
58  Better Waterfront House.esp
59  strotisSackLol.esp
5A  strotisFurnitureAnim.esp
5B  DynamicDrink&Eat.esp
5C  Realistic Weapon weights-3534.esp
5D  Dialogue Idles.esp


 

Have latest OBSE and Menuque

 

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Welcome to TAL!

 

You have a lot of dynamic mods in that list, which can have problems with Oblivion XP. I would try creating a Bashed Patch, to start. Use CBash to create the patch.

 

Also, which UI are you using?

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Actually, just have a look at Bash's readme. It's a LOT better now that Alternity has redone it. It's in Mopy\Docs, which should be in your Oblivion folder. The one you want to read is the General Readme. It explains the patch and the basic selections. I would skip the first dialogue that prompts you to merge a bunch of mods - you don't need that on such a small load order. I don't see any filter mods in your LO that have to be merged, but have a look at what WB tells you. If it says some mods should be merged, then do so. It will tell you that when you click on the mod in the Mods tab - click on each mod and look at the messages in the status bar at the bottom of the screen. I think it changes the background colour on the mod in the list too.

 

How did you install Darnified?

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Okay. So I guess I dont need CBash then :S

I'll see if I can get it done asap. So this patch may get OblivionXP to work right? I installed Darnified via OBMM. I recently reinstalled it along with OblivionXP to troubleshoot it but nothing gave.

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Use CBash to build the patch. PBash messes up some of the imports. :)

 

You can get a BAIN package for Darnified. I recommend installing Darnified with BAIN and doing the same for Ob XP. Hopefully between that and the bashed patch, you can get Ob XP working on your existing game. If not, then we'll have to start taking a closer look at some of your mods.

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So I've got the hang of the whole bashed patch thing but I've been trying for damn hours to get the Darnified and OblivXP rars detected in the installer tab of Wrye Bash.

My oblivion mods folder is in the same folder as my Oblivion (C:/Games) 

 

I put them in Bash Installers but it wont at all. I also cannot find the refresh button I keep reading about in google search. 

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Darnified and Oblivion XP use 7zip, not RAR. Don't use RAR as a generic term for archive - it's a proprietary format that can't be used on all systems.

 

7zip is freely available, but you do need to download the program to deal with them. Once you install 7zip, Wrye Bash should recognize them just fine. You put the complete archives in the Bash Installers folder.

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Actually I had forgotten to enable BAIN xD

 

So I did the Bashed Patch and installed DarNified UI and OblivionXP. But it still crashes when I level up. Even leveling up on a new game gets it to crash. So I'm sure its something to do with the menu. I'll see how will the mod do without Darnified UI later

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Do you know if any of your other mods modify the menus?

 

Here's what we're dealing with:

  • mods that modify the menus must be installed in a specific order. Oblivion XP has be installed after your UI and other mods that modify the menus.
  • unless you install all your mods with BAIN, then you have to reinstall the other mods that modify the menus when you uninstall one of them. This is why you can't just deactivate mods. Some mods can be deactivated without issues.
  • state information is saved in your saved game files and in the OBSE co-save.
  • dynamic mods need to rebuild when you level. This is why Dynamic Loaded Lists is incompatible with Oblivion XP. The process it uses to generate new levelled lists causes crashes when used with Ob XP. We don't know why.
I'm just trying to say that there's a lot involved in figuring out the source of a problem. At this point, we usually have to start deactivating and/or uninstalling the mods in your load order until the crashes stop. I can say that I know people who are using Reneer's and UVIII without issues. I would upgrade to UVIII - Hex made some fixes so that it's more compatible with Ob XP. I've had problems with Storms and Sounds and the keychain mod, so you might look at removing those and see if that helps. All Natural and the unofficial patches are fine. Texture replacers won't be an issue either.

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Hmm. I used BOSS to sort my load order for me. Never manualy sorted it myself since I got BOSS. I got both DarNified Menu and HUD Status bars installed. I'll see if one of them are causing the problems. How do I rebuild dynamic mods?

 

Also I used Oblivion Face Exchange Lite multiple times in my save. I heard it was incompatible with XP?

 

@deaths_soul I havent seen that keychain mod by him. Could I have a link? Thanks for the UOP link. I don't know why couldnt he just post that on nexus.

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Hey. This mod crashes on the first time level up prompt on my loadgame. 
My load order
 
Active Mod Files:

00  Oblivion.esm
01  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 1.34]
02  A_Bloody_Mess.esm
03  HorseCombatMaster.esm
04  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.2.0]
05  All Natural.esp  [Version 1.35]
06  Immersive Interiors.esp  [Version 0.8.1]
07  HAZdynamicSnow.esp
08  Better Water-1830.esp
09  Realistic Water.esp
0A  Symphony of Violence.esp
0B  PCSoundRhett.esp  [Version 2.6]
0C  Sounds of Cyrodiil.esp  [Version 1.1]
0D  All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [Version 1.35]
0E  IlluminationWithin.esp
0F  WindowLightingSystem.esp
10  AliveWaters.esp
11  AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp
12  AliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.esp
13  Added Realistic NPC's v1.0.esp
14  BBB Better Bouncing Bread Loafs.esp
15  Book Jackets Oblivion.esp
16  ChaseCameraMod.esp
17  ClocksOfCyrodiil.esp
18  Cyrodilic Brandy.esp
19  ImprovedSigns.esp
1A  Inebriation.esp
1B  P1DseeYouSleep.esp
1C  ReneerVariedNPCsMod.esp
1D  Update My Statue.esp  [Version 1.30]
1E  VA_BetterGold.esp
1F  Crowded Roads Revisited.esp  [Version 1.1]
20  DropLitTorchOBSE.esp  [Version 2.4]
21  Get Wet v0.92.esp
22  Streamline 3.1.esp
23  Map Marker Overhaul.esp  [Version 3.9.3]
24  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
25  EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer.esp
26  CM_Better Wine.esp
27  console codes.esp
28  RustyItems.esp
29  DLCThievesDen.esp
2A  Alluring Potion Bottles v3.esp
2B  Creature Diversity.esp
2C  ARS.esp
2D  Better Lava by elveon.esp
2E  Real Lava 1.3.esp
2F  Better Bookshelves In Buyable Houses.esp
30  Birthsign Zero.esp
31  CoverYourself.esp
32  Cliff_BetterLetters.esp  [Version 1.2]
33  EVE_ShiveringIslesEasterEggs.esp
34  HelmetFOV.esp
35  Improved Fires and Flames - Increased Sound.esp
36  ImprovedSoulgems.esp  [Version 1.11]
37  P1DkeyChain.esp  [Version 5.00]
38  ReneerNPCNameMod.esp
39  RenCorpseMod.esp
3A  kuerteeGoldIsAnInventoryItem.esp
3B  Sexlivion_0.4a_Full_English_v1.esp
3C  Short Grass V3.esp
3D  SkycaptainsBloodTime.esp
3E  Lynges Unlimited Death Reload Time.esp
3F  Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp
40  Realistic Zero-Weight Items.esp
41  Basic Physical Activities.esp  [Version 1.3]
42  RealisticForceMedium.esp
43  RealisticMagicForceMedium.esp
44  RealSleepExtended.esp  [Version 2.5]
45  Soolie'sBetterEnchantmentEffects.esp
46  RenGuardOverhaul.esp
47  'Eagle Eye' Realistic Archery v1.0 Fixed.esp  [Version 1.0]
48  Deadly Reflex 6 - Timed Block and 250% damage.esp
49  Mounted_Spellcasting_Deadly_Reflex_Compatible.esp
4A  Oblivion XP.esp
4B  actors_in_charge.esp
4C  SP1stPLegs.esp
4D  EVE_KhajiitFix.esp
4E  Oblivion_Character_Overhaul.esp  [Version 2.0]
4F  omg-dynamicDoF.esp
50  omg-staticDoF.esp
51  UVII.esp
52  DeadlyReflex 6 - Combat Moves.esp
53  Deadly Reflex 6 - HeX NifSE Patch.esp
54  Sexlivion-ForBP2ch.esp
55  Realist Cuff Mod.esp
56  Realistic_Weighted_Armor.esp
57  TML_Real-time.esp
58  Better Waterfront House.esp
59  strotisSackLol.esp
5A  strotisFurnitureAnim.esp
5B  DynamicDrink&Eat.esp
5C  Realistic Weapon weights-3534.esp
5D  Dialogue Idles.esp

 
Have latest OBSE and Menuque

Welcome to TAL! :banana:

 

May I ask how did install those mods in your loadorder and the reason I ask is simple, because I know some mods must be either merged or imported into the bashed patch and I don't see a bashed patch.  I bet these mod needs to be handle by the bashed patch.

 

25  EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer.esp (imported I think)

4D  EVE_KhajiitFix.esp (probably merged)

 

 

I also suggest that you replace the Alternative Start by Robert Evrae mod and try Arthmoor's Alternate Beginnings mod (always has the UOP fixes included), which have several starting options to start the game plus his mod is also sort of a MQ delayer. :)

Edited by Leonardo

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Hmm. I used BOSS to sort my load order for me. Never manualy sorted it myself since I got BOSS. I got both DarNified Menu and HUD Status bars installed. I'll see if one of them are causing the problems. How do I rebuild dynamic mods?

 

Also I used Oblivion Face Exchange Lite multiple times in my save. I heard it was incompatible with XP?

 

@deaths_soul I havent seen that keychain mod by him. Could I have a link? Thanks for the UOP link. I don't know why couldnt he just post that on nexus.

 

Darnified and HUD Status Bars are fine. In fact I have instructions in the readme on how to set up HSB to work with Oblivion XP. When I say readme, I'm referring to the readme PDF file in Data\Docs.

 

Face Exchange Lite is incompatible. It resets your character stats to the starting values. I don't think that will affect Oblivion XP as long as you don't use it once you've installed Ob XP.

 

Let's try getting rid of that keychain mod, sort your load order again and rebuild your bashed patch. Once you're done all that, could you please post your load order again?

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