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No Man's Sky: 2016's Biggest Disappointment


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Several instances of false/undelivered promises and a progression that is so padded out that the tutorial period outlasts any reasonable playtime grace period for refunds. It's crazy, but not surprising.


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Steam denied my refund.



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That's bloody obnoxious.


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You may want to call the credit card company and dispute the charge.

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Just be careful if you do that. Valve has been known to permban people who issue chargebacks against things on Steam.


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Seriously? That sounds illegal.

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It depends on the situation. A credit chargeback in digital distribution is quite a slap in the face, it can be tantamount to a refusal to do further business.

 

Edit: It seems Steam was giving special refunds, but something changed around 5-6 EST and the page was updated to say that they apply standard refund policy without any exemptions.


Edited by Cray, 29 August 2016 - 03:00 AM.

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You'll like this: http://www.gamespot....v/1100-6443994/

The game's developers are being investigated over misleading advertising. :D
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Steam Refunds go through a customer service department, I imagine that the Reps were giving out refunds on account of the game being fairly shit for $60.

 

The Investigation will be interesting, whilst it's not going to result in a US style Class-Action suit a decision that the game was falsely advertised will basically give everyone here grounds to demand a refund full stop. That could lead to Valve and Sony suing Hello Games.



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Supposedly this game is much improved now. They've since added base building, player owned trade freighters, land vehicles, and general improvements, but still none of the promised multiplayer. When I get the time I'm going to start the game up again and see if all that makes it any better. Supposedly there's a combat update coming soon, so maybe I'll wait for that. I'm curious how different it is now though, since I haven't touched it since release.

 

One interesting thing that has come to light is that you were actually able to get to the center of the galaxy before they released the day one patch. If you have an original disc version of the game and play offline you can do it, but according to people that have done it, you just get sent to a new galaxy anyway, so nothing different from the current ending.  <_<


Edited by Vincent, 10 May 2017 - 03:12 AM.


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If you do crank it up, could you report back as to whether you feel it's playable or not?

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Will do.

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I enjoy it these days, although it still has not delivered all details that were mentioned in all the pre-release hype. It is now a relaxing exploration game, with a lot more diversity (could be better), and a lot more to do ..

 

.. But I am still hanging on for what is hoped to be another large update. The multi-player thing was never going to be anything like multi-player, but was a "possibility that two players could come face to face", at least thats how I interpreted what Murray was saying.

 

That particular point I was watching for and hoping that it would never happen. My preference for these type of games is a single player experience, and just prior to this game coming along, it was not so long ago that David Brabens new Elite game (something I had been hoping for about 30 years to come true) suddenly dropped the Single Player game completely just before release. That was quite a let down.

 

So I was hoping for a space exploration game that was heavily influenced by old SciFi books and movies in the form of NMS to replace that dissapointment.

 

And which as things got closer were advertised as a Single Player game on the Steam and GOG sites.

 

The advertising standards agency in the UK closed down all the forum collated claims of false advertising as basicly no case to follow up on.

 

I do believe it was over-hyped, and a few things were alluded to without directly promising anything .. Which shouldn't have happened. Thats the gaming industry since forever though, artwork on boxes has always promised an excited imagination things it could not possibly deliver in a computer game. We were also sold short on a lot of content which didnt make it into the release .. But a fair chunk of that is now in the game after the Foundation and Pathfinder updates.

 

IMHO - Hold off until after the next update, then listen to everyones opinion. I like it as it is personally, but do hope that some of the mistery is fleshed out a lot more and that you feel like there is something more to keep on striving to discover / achieve. The battles you can have in space could definitely do with some fleshing out although they are better now than they first were, and the battles on planets are not as threatening as we once thought they would be, people regard the sentinels these days as a resource to be farmed instead of something to fear. If one approaches me I just stair it out and think "go on, just one bullet and your history tinhead". Stands with fists, instead of Standby for billy big steps while backing away increasing the distance.

 

The new survival mode though .. Thats a different beast altogether. For me its a bit too heavy, too much of a struggle to keep going to be enjoyable as a game. But it certainly makes the game a hell of a challenge thats worth giving a shot at least once (ten times for me .. and even though I dont really like it, occasionally I am still tempted to start a new game in that mode).

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The new Exocraft Roamer buggy things are a blast too. After getting all of the upgrades, they feel like .. The most excellent RC buggy you ever got your hands on controlling :)


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CobraTV seems to think that this supposed update is going to be them releasing the game that they originally promised to release. If that's the case, I will most definitely be waiting for that.



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I'll steal my bro-in-law's computer before I buy my own copy.  Just in case.


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Thanks for the update. I'm waiting to buy it until things are sorted out more. :)

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They're doing a really big ARG marketing campaign for whatever it is they're working on, so it can't just be any old update. They've had a whole year, and a whole lot more money than they had during development. It'll be interesting to see what this "Waking Titan" thing is.



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The ARG is annoying, when it was eventually proved that Waking Titan was actually about NMS, I felt like shouting "Stop messing around with this crap and get on with the update!"

 

I forgot to mention the game now has the occasional randomly spawned missions too. I met a Gek who had lost valuable cargo to pirates when they took his ship down, so I had to go find his ship and recover something for him. Really took me by surprise because I had never had one before, but it was a nice surprise anyway.

 

You also get associated missions as part of building / upgrading your new Exocraft too. Tip pick a planet thats not so lumpy for these to be based on, otherwise you will be growling at the bottom of a hole trying to get out at some point.






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