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TheDarkListener34

Skyrim Crashes

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Well, here we go again, another problem that I haven't solved on my own. I cannot figure out what's going on even if I start a new game it will still crash. I've made sure everything is up-to-date, my drivers, mods, all of it. I looked at my load order and on Wrye Bash that it looks perfectly fine. However, I'm still having trouble with these crashes and I don't know where there coming from either a mod that I uninstalled last night. Everything was working perfectly fine the last time I played and that was last night. 

Here's my load order:

 

 


= Check Mods
This is a report on your currently active/merged mods.

=== Mergeable
Following mods are active, but could be merged into the bashed patch.
* KillAnimationAlways.esp
* Perfect Legionnaire - Full Helmet.esp

=== Active Mod Files:
* 00  Skyrim.esm
* 01  Update.esm
* 02  Dawnguard.esm
* 03  HearthFires.esm
* 04  Dragonborn.esm
* 05  Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp  [Version 3.0.6]
* 06  ApachiiHair.esm
* 07  Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm
* 08  RSkyrimChildren.esm
* 09  HighResTexturePack01.esp
* 0A  HighResTexturePack02.esp
* 0B  HighResTexturePack03.esp
* 0C  EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
* 0D  ELFX - Exteriors.esp
* 0E  SkyRe_Main.esp
* 0F  Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp
* 10  JKs Skyrim.esp
* 11  CastleVolkiharImmersive.esp
* 12  Fort Dawnguard Overhaul.esp
* 13  DarkbroSanctuary.esp
* 14  Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp
* 15  Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
* 16  Skyrim Unbound.esp
* 17  SkyRe_EnemyScaling.esp
* 18  Presets 2-3.esp
* 19  BetterQuestObjectives.esp  [Version 1.5.7]
* 1A  Book Covers Skyrim.esp
* 1B  Overhauled Throne Rooms.esp
* 1C  iWil_UselessShopOverhaul.esp
* 1D  RealShelter.esp
* 1E  ELFXEnhancer.esp
* 1F  SkyrimCoinReplacerRedux.esp
* 20  Dawnstar Sanctuary Overhaul.esp
* 21  NPCs Protected Redux.esp
* 22  Feminine Females.esp
* 23  NGNPC.esp
* 24  AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
* 25  Immersive Interiors.esp
* 26  FAMP2.esp
* 27  TAZ_lightingDLC.esp
* 28  ELFX - Weathers.esp
* 29  SkyRe_EncounterZones.esp
* 2A  Fort(ified) Dawnguard.esp
* 2B  TheChoiceIsYours.esp
* 2C  Inconsequential NPCs.esp
* 2D  Run For Your Lives.esp  [Version 2.0.6]
* 2E  Cloaks.esp
* 2F  CampArgentum.esp
* 30  CampVarglya.esp
* 31  DawnguardArsenal.esp  [Version 1.0]
* 32  Size Does Matter HF.esp
* 33  StreetKids1.0.1.esp
* 34  JKs Whiterun exterior.esp  [Version 1.1]
* 35  CCO - Permanent Birthsigns.esp
* 36  Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
* 37  SkyRe_StandingStones.esp
* 38  mslVampiricThirst.esp
* 39  VTR - Vampiric Thirst Redone.esp
* 3A  Storefront.esp  [Version 1.0.6]
* 3B  SkyRe_Races.esp
* 3C  Populated Prisons.esp
* 3D  SkyRe_EnemyAI.esp
* 3E  armored-horses.esp
* 3F  BP2Meeko.esp
* 40  Lanterns Of Skyrim - AIO - Dawnguard.esp
* 41  Vampirelordroyal.esp
* 42  high hrothgar overhaul.esp
* 43  SkyUI.esp
* 44  TimingIsEverything.esp
* 45  Bijin Warmaidens.esp
* 46  AkaviriKatanas.esp
* 47  Armored Skeleton.esp  [Version v3.1]
* 48  AzarHairPonyTail 03 - Havok.esp
* 49  BladesComandEsbernLookmoreglorius.esp
* 4A  dD-No Spinning Death Animation Merged.esp
* 4B  DragonsEnhanced.esp
* 4C  Footprints.esp
* 4D  Perfect Legionnaire - Troops Re-equipment.esp
* 4E  imp_helm_legend.esp
* 4F  KillAnimationAlways.esp
* 50  NGNPC Dragonborn.esp
* 51  Perfect Legionnaire - Full Helmet.esp
* 52  ViewableFactionRanksBothDLC.esp
* 53  Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
* 54  SFLPregnancyChildRearing.esp
* 55  impgen.esp
* 56  StormLord.esp
* 57  TrueDeathBasic.esp
* 58  1nivWICCloaks.esp  [Version 2.3]
* 59  Dr_Bandolier.esp
* 5A  Dr_BandolierDG.esp
* 5B  BandolierForNPCMasterFile.esp  [Version 4.0]
* 5C  BandolierForNPCsWIC_V2.esp
* 5D  1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp  [Version 2.3]
* 5E  Oblivion Gates in Cities.esp  [Version 1.0]
* 5F  ThalmorInfluence1.esp
* 60  The greybeards entrance.esp
* 61  Gildergreen Regrown.esp  [Version 1.2.6]
* 62  SkyRe_Combat.esp
* 63  Equipping Overhaul.esp
* 64  LustmordVampireArmor.esp
* 65  dovahkiinrelax.esp
* 66  FollowerWander2.esp
* 67  KS Hairdos - HDT.esp
* 68  KS Hairdo's.esp
* 69  SuperSleeves.esp
* 6A  OverflowingEnchant.esp
* 6B  Finnia.esp
* 6C  Animated Enchantments.esp
* 6D  Dawnguard Hoods and Replacer.esp
* 6E  Dawnguard Hoods.esp
* 6F  MeekoVigilanceAreHuskies.esp
* 70  BandolierForNPCsCheaperBandoliers_BalancedWeight_Dawnguard.esp
* 71  Dogs Into Huskies.esp
* 72  RealisticHuskySounds-DogsIntoHuskies.esp
* 73  RSPatch.esp
* 74  Beards.esp
* 75  Brows.esp
* 76  DSerArcheryGameplayOverhaul.esp
* 77  WondersofWeather.esp
* 78  WetandCold.esp
* 79  WetandCold - Ashes.esp
* 7A  When Vampires Attack.esp  [Version 2.0.6]
* 7B  Character Creation Overhaul.esp
* 7C  CCO - Diverse Races And Genders.esp
* 7D  CCO - Dynamic Skill Progression.esp
* 7E  CCO - Oblivion Carry Weights.esp
* 7F  dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
* 80  dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp
* 81  dD-Larger Splatter Size.esp
* 82  RaceMenu.esp
* 83  RaceMenuPlugin.esp
* 84  Illustrious HDT Cloaks.esp
* 85  Training.esp
* 86  WSCO - OcciFemaleVNL.esp
* 87  WSCO - OcciMaleVNL.esp
* 88  KJ Tattoos 2K.esp
* 89  ThalmorInfluence2.esp
* 8A  XPMSE.esp
* 8B  Chesko_WearableLantern.esp
* 8C  SFO - Dragonborn.esp
* 8D  dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
* 8E  GoToBed.esp
* 8F  FNIS.esp
* 90  FNISspells.esp
* 91  Darker Bloodcursed Sky.esp
* 92  RSChildren - Complete.esp
* 93  WSCO - Better NPCs.esp
* 94  Unique Housecarls.esp
* 95  Cute Serana.esp
* 96  Cute Babette.esp
* 97  Immersive detection of NPC.esp
* 98  TKMN_MoreAdoptableChildren.esp
* 99  Elisif Makeover.esp
* 9A  FollowerAsCompforFllrMods.esp
* 9B  Bijin Wives.esp
* 9C  Bijin NPCs.esp
* 9D  Skyrim Particle Patch for ENB - Flame Atronach Fix.esp
* 9E  Dual Sheath Redux.esp
* 9F  JoOPraetorian.esp
* A0  NeutralHjerim.esp
* A1  KTABladeOfWoe.esp
* A2  dbbetterf.esp
* A3  Akavari Katana Re_borne.esp
* A4  Followers_StealthKills.esp
* A5  Dark NightsB.esp
* A6  Physical_Rain.esp
* A7  ImprovedLucien.esp
* A8  Immersive Citizens - ELFXEnhancer patch.esp
* A9  VampKnight.esp
* AA  Shard Companion.esp
* AB  Royal Bloodline & Vampiric Thirst Patch.esp
* AC  Carmella.esp
* AD  FeedTheAnimals.esp
* AE  NPCs Protected Redux - iqNPC.esp
* AF  BetterQuestObjectives-AFTPatch.esp
* B0  BetterQuestObjectives-SkyRePatch.esp
* B1  RSChildren_NonPlayableOverride.esp
* B2  Patch - Inconsequential NPCs - RS kids.esp
* B3  ReProccer.esp
* B4  Bashed Patch, 0.esp
* B5  Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp

 

 

I've made sure that my bashed patch is good and it is. Even FNIS. Oh and I am not sure if it's the ENB.

Edited by TheDarkListener34

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Are you using the latest LOOT and have you sorted your loadorder in LOOT?  If you haven't then I strongly suggest that you do that before doing anything else.

 

You also miss UHRP and AFT should be near the bashed patch and not early in your loadorder.  Also, check all messages in the LOOT.log and correct them if necessary, but also follow the instructions the Mod Checker in Wrye Bash tells you to do.

 

* KillAnimationAlways.esp
* Perfect Legionnaire - Full Helmet.esp

 

I think you should try to merge these two mods into bashed patch just to see if that helps.  Finally, don't forget to clean every mods that LOOT has detected as dirty in TES5Edit, including the official Skyrim Master Files.

 

I almost forgot to tell you that JK's Skyrim seems to have a conflict with USLEEP 305, perhaps with 306 too I dunno, and that could be the reason why you got a CTD.

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I've done everything that you've said. Although, I am currently cleaning the Skyrim Master files. I am getting a Warning: Plugin contains 57 deleted NavMeshes which can not be undeleted - which is on Dawnguard.esm file.

Should I try an older version of USLEEP?

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Alright, so I cleaned everything. LOOT couldn't provide any details about cleaning mods. So I used Wrye Bash Mod Checker to see if any mods were dirty. I wasn't sure how to clean individual parts of the Navmeshes. So I used this

 

Folks,

I'll share how I clean Deleted NavMesh Records.  Hope this helps to streamline the process.

 

  • Using FNVEdit or TES5Edit (always use current version), select one dirty mod at a time to clean as indicated in your LOOT or BOSS report and deselect all others, then click OK to begin.
    • NOTE: Master files and any dependent mods will get loaded as well. This is normal.
  1. In the left pane, right click on the dirty mod and choose ‘Apply Filter for Cleaning’ from the context menu and wait for the scan to finish.
  2. In the left pane, right click on the dirty mod and choose ‘Undelete and Disable References’ from the context menu and wait for the scan to finish.
  3. In the right pane, look in the Message tab for ‘Skipping: [NAVM:<BLAH>] That BLAH code is an important clue!  Copy and paste it into the FormID search field and hit Enter
  4. You will now have two records showing in the right pane. One is the NavMesh in your Master file, the second is the Deleted NavMesh that needs to be removed.
  5. In the right pane, up at the top, right click on the name of the dirty mod and choose ‘Jump to’ from the context menu and it will take you straight to the Deleted NavMesh Record.
  6. In the Left pane, right click on the selected Navigation Mesh and choose ‘Remove’.  A warning will pop up asking ‘Are you sure?’ Answer Yes
  7. In the right pane, switch to the Messages tab and repeat the above process for any other skipped NAVM’s listed
  • Once all Deleted NavMesh Records are removed, close FNVEdit/TES5Edit to save your work.
  • Make sure to place checkmarks on the dirty (now cleaned) mod and the Backup Plugins checkboxes only. Anything else, leave unchecked and click OK to save and exit.
  • Run BOSS or LOOT to check your work. No errors, means good to go!

 

 

 

I hope I did it right. If I did it wrong....then oh boy. But it looks like the Mod Checker said,"Congratulations all mods appear clean."

EDIT: Still crashing. Where and when you say: It's during loading screens and on my latest save. Including on a new game.

Edited by TheDarkListener34

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on my documents, my games, Skyrim, saves. It says 400KB on my latest save, the auto save is 8,506KB

Should I use Save Script Cleaner?

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on my documents, my games, Skyrim, saves. It says 400KB on my latest save, the auto save is 8,506KB

 

Should I use Save Script Cleaner?

Do you have Hadoram's Save Game Script Cleaner installed?  If you have then it's safe to use, even Arthmoor recommends people to use it and I use it myself.

 

Before you reinstall Skyrim there is one more thing you can try and that's to regenerate Skyrim.ini by deleting the Skyrim.ini in the C:\<user>\MyDocuments\Games\Skyrim folder then run the Skyrim Launcher (not the SKSE launcher).

 

 

Have you enable the Papyrus log by editing these lines in Skyrim.ini?

[Papyrus]
bEnableLogging=1
bEnableTrace=1
bLoadDebugInformation=1

If you have enable Papyrus log then delete Skyrim.ini and regenerate Skyrim.ini by launching the Skyrim Launcher and editing these lines above in Skyrim.ini.

 

Now try to start a new game then load a gamesave from your current game, if you have already started a game.

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The Save game script cleaner doesn't work and regenerate Skyrim.ini doesn't work. So I do have Enable Papyrus though. But I am not permitted to upload that file. I don't know what else to do. Should I Verify my games Cache, at least try that, uninstall all the mods and rebuild bashed patch? Maybe use the script cleaner after I uninstall all the mods. My last resort is reinstall my skyrim game and delete all my saves

And before this happened I've been getting random crashes as well.

 

Edited by TheDarkListener34

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Do a binary search. That's better than doing things one at a time. You need to remove mods and start a new game each time to test whenever you remove them in the search process. There's no way around it. You need to remove some mods to get to the bottom of it. There is no silver bullet.

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The Save game script cleaner doesn't work and regenerate Skyrim.ini doesn't work. So I do have Enable Papyrus though. But I am not permitted to upload that file. I don't know what else to do. Should I Verify my games Cache, at least try that, uninstall all the mods and rebuild bashed patch? Maybe use the script cleaner after I uninstall all the mods. My last resort is reinstall my skyrim game and delete all my saves

 

And before this happened I've been getting random crashes as well.

That doesn't give you much choice then to scrap everything and start over with a reinstalled Skyrim plus with all mods, tools.

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Okay, so uninstalled all the mods without reinstalling Skyrim. However, When I entered a new game, it worked. Although I will thoroughly search what mod is making my game crash.

Note: RS Children Overhaul wasn't on the mod section of NMM, I had to manually uninstall it. So far so good. I still have T.A.Z ENB mod still on. The game works though. When I  installed RS Children Overhaul It did download then completed the download but it didn't appear in either categories. The category for the mod says NPC - Children, I've made that category but it never appeared onto that category or any category. So it might be a bug.

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