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*sigh* I think we're snake bitten.

 

I tried to do the upgrade, but I discovered that our backups aren't working. I can't do an operating system upgrade without a full backup. I have contacted Linode and am waiting for a reply.


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Linode fixed the problem and did a backup for us. I tried to do the upgrade and it failed, so I had to use that backup to restore everything.

 

I need to think about how to proceed.


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Did it specify why the upgrade failed? I've dealt with finicky upgrade processes so maybe I can help. :)

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It's hard to explain. It's way more complicated than a few error messages. I'll explain it to you at some point. I'm just super tired and annoyed right now. One of the many changes is that Ubuntu made is that they switched from Upstart to Systemd. That alone broke a ton of stuff.
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Weird, cause I don't recall having any trouble at all when going from 14.04 to 16.02 or whatever the actual version number jump was.


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Then you were luckier than me. First, Ubuntu has deprecated PHP 5, but didn't install PHP 7, so it uninstalled PHP 5. Poof, web server gone. I thought it would install PHP 7. Oh right, they switched to systemd, so apt-get is throwing errors. Ok, got PHP 7, I'll migrate our server instances to that in a minute. Not sure I got it all due to the errors though. We were on MySQL 5.6, but that wasn't good enough either, so it removed that too. Poof, database server gone. Ok, what does it want? MySQL 5.7. Seriously?! Fine, grab MySQL 5.7. Fuck systemd again, apt-get fails again and this time, I get pages of errors. Fuck it, time to restore the backup and tackle this another time. Nginx survived the attempt, but with no PHP and no MySQL, you have no forums.

 

The really annoying thing is that the version of Ubuntu we're running (14.04.x) is still a supported release, but there's only some dude's PHP repository available to upgrade to PHP 7. I could probably upgrade to MySQL 5.7 and save some headaches, but I didn't want to use an unofficial repo for PHP 7. 14.04.x is supported until 2018, so why haven't they updated the repository for PHP 7?

 

The upgrade also installed some software that I had intentionally uninstalled a while ago because we weren't using those programs anymore (munin, logcheck). I used the proper uninstall routines, but something was still stuck in some file somewhere, so it wanted to put them all back. *sigh*

 

If I could afford it, I'd buy another Linode, do a clean install there and then migrate all the data over, but I can't, so now I'm debating my options.


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14.04 is only supported on the LTS branch until 2018. LTS branches typically don't make substantial changes to infrastructure like upgrading from PHP 5 to PHP 7. That's a pretty major jump but it's something that has to happen before the forum can upgrade to IPB 4. So it's definitely a problem if you can't coax it into the upgrade for whatever reason.

 

I never do much of anything more than simply executing the do-release-upgrade command as root (after backing up the forums and databases of course). That's never once failed to do its job. Of course, I also use Apache and not Ngnix so I have no idea if that's going to throw a wrench into things or not.


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I think part of the problem here is old stuff. I'll do some investigating and see if I can clean up and clear out the old stuff, then try upgrading PHP and MySQL before attempting the OS upgrade again. They'll also be coming out with a new release soon (16.04.3), so that might help too.


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15 Mbps down/10 Mbps up

 

DSL has nothing to do with it - I won't be transferring any files to the server from my machine. I'm upgrading the server from Ubuntu 14.04 to 16.04. We run Ubuntu LTS. After the upgrade, I have to reconfigure all the server files.

 

15Mbps--nice.  I was just asking because you mentioned you had DSL.  I do too.  Nowadays everyone has fiber, neat to see a fellow DSL'er.  Of course, my speed is supposed to be 3Mbps, but I don't see that.


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They're in the process of putting in fibre here, but only the monopoly phone company offers the service right now. It will probably trickle down to the independent providers eventually. I doubt we'd be able to afford it though. :P

 

You never see the full download speed. Part of it is because they quote the damned download speed on service plans in Megabit/s, whereas your download speed when actually downloading a file is Megabyte/s, so you need to do the conversion. I don't know why they can't just be honest. I guess it's because the numbers would be so small. There are also other losses. So yeah, I'm lucky if I actually get 1 MB/s on download.


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Sorry about the unexpected downtime folks. This time I attempted to clear out the configuration files for packages that I had removed previously and it blew away Nginx, which is the web server. It did clear out mysql 5.5, which was the source of some of the headaches yesterday though, so I think I'm winning the battle... :lol:


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Good luck, and know that your hard work is appreciated! :)



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Thank you! I'll get back to doing updates soon.


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Ok, I need to get a couple more updates done before I can upgrade the server OS and the forums. I'm going to slip them in when I get a chance, so I will be taking the site offline so I can get a good backup. So if you find TAL offline, don't worry it's just me messing up the server again.


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Ok, managed to upgrade to PHP 7 without destroying the server this time. :D  Now just another update to do and then I can upgrade the OS. I do that another day.


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