Jump to content
  • Announcements

    • AndalayBay

      Orphan Attachments   07/31/2018

      I have been doing some housekeeping lately and I've noticed that I had a lot of orphaned attachments. Attachments get orphaned when the PM or post is deleted without removing the attachment first. Deleting a PM or post does not delete the attachment and the file or image remain on the server. I'd like to ask all members to go through their attachments and delete any attachments you don't need anymore or those that have been orphaned. Where can I get a list of my attachments? Click on your display name in the upper right corner of the forums and pick "My Attachments" from the drop-down list. How can I tell an attachment is orphaned? If the PM has been deleted, you'll see a message like this in your attachment list: Unfortunately there is no message if the post has been deleted, so please check your old posts. We do purge old birthday threads every once in a while. Also some hosted projects have been shut down, so you may have orphaned attachments on one of those locations. Thanks!
Sign in to follow this  
AndalayBay

Huge Scare Today

Recommended Posts

A guy drove a van down the sidewalks on Yonge Street today, starting at Finch and being stopped at Shepherd. That’s over 2 1/2 km or over a mile. He killed nine people and injured tons more.

My husband, Jimi, works at Yonge and Finch. Fortunately he didn’t go outside. When I saw the story on the news at 5, I tried calling him and he didn’t answer his phone. Needless to say, I had a fright. He had to walk all the way to Shepherd to catch the subway, so he didn’t hear his phone.

Jimi didn’t see what happened, but he could see the carnage from the window of the office tower where he works. He said they made an announcement in the office and asked managers to do a head count of their employees to make sure no one was missing. Way too close for comfort.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

We don’t know what the motive was yet. It was just one guy. They identified him. I don’t know if you can watch the videos, but here’s a news story about it.

When it first happened, people thought it was an accident due to illness and they tried to run after the van. People in cars drove after it. Then they realized it wasn’t an accident. We can’t believe how far down Yonge Street he was able to travel. We have no clue why he picked that area. It’s pretty far north of the downtown core of the city.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

That is something the jihadists have done before.  Maybe the guy flipped out?  Was high on something?  Maybe you could keep this thread posted with updates?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

The authorities acknowledge that it’s likely a terrorist attack, but we want to find out for sure before we start calling it that.

Yeah I’ll try to keep this updated.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

At this point, we don’t think this was a terrorist event. The suspect has a history of mental illness. He climbed out of the van and demanded that police shoot him. He claimed to have a gun, but it was just a cell phone. They didn’t shoot him. Police continue to investigate.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

If he had taken a late lunch and decided to visit a place on the street, then he would have been right in the path. I had also asked him to pick up something from the drug store. As it turns out, the drug store is in the underground mall. I didn’t know that until tonight.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Keep safe! I guess that's one of the consequences of the big selloff and corporatization of publicly funded infirmaries and the like in favour of real estate developers and other business interests. Profits before lives isn't a sound basis for civilization.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
9 hours ago, Schtearn said:

Keep safe! I guess that's one of the consequences of the big selloff and corporatization of publicly funded infirmaries and the like in favour of real estate developers and other business interests. Profits before lives isn't a sound basis for civilization.

We never have supported mental health. I was diagnosed with major depression and when I said I wanted to see a psychiatrist, not a therapist, I got told by the doctor that the only way that would happen is if I was a danger to myself or to others. I wanted to see a psychiatrist because therapists aren’t qualified to prescribe meds and I was struggling to find something that helped.

36 minutes ago, Amadaun said:

Being that I'm a mentally ill individual, can we not assume that's why he did that?  It's annoying.

Also, it seems that he did it because he was an entitled asshole who was angry about not getting laid.  <_<

His family said he had a history of mental health issues. Whatever the cause, grabbing a vehicle to kill a bunch of people is hardly the response of a sane individual. He could very well have gotten told what I was told (above) and he chose the “danger to others” route. <_<

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Update:

The latest is that the suspect’s name is Alek. As Amaduan said, he posted on FaceBook before the incident. He had social issues and was involuntarily celibate. He joined military, but only lasted 16 days. Other recruits said he was an awful recruit. At this point, the police haven’t even charged him with murder.

If he pleads mental illness and he gets convicted on that basis, he’ll get away with this. We’ve had other cases in the past where the defendant has claimed mental health issues and they were sentenced to internment in a mental hospital. In one case, the convict only served a year and then was released because the doctors said that he was cured with medication. Basically as soon as the doctors deem the “patient” has been successfully treated, they are released. We also had a case where a rich dude drove drunk and ran a stopsign. He killed all three children and the grandparents of a family. He pled guilty and was sentenced to 10 years in prison. First, only 10 years. Second, just two years into his sentence, he’s eligible for unescorted temporary absences from prison and he’s applied for them.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
6 hours ago, Amadaun said:

Being that I'm a mentally ill individual, can we not assume that's why he did that?  It's annoying.

Also, it seems that he did it because he was an entitled asshole who was angry about not getting laid.  <_<

I meant no offense whatsoever, Amadaun.  I, too, suffer from mental illness.  A lot of people do.  What I was trying to say is that most people don't give in to such acts of violence.  We may feel like it, but there's a line.  Like AB said, he could have temporarily lost sanity.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

It's okay.  :)  

The thing is, if he was part of the "incel" community, well, it's going to be really, really hard for him to claim temporary loss of sanity.  I mean, there's people upset because they're lonely or dateless...and then there's these guys.  

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Odd.  Involuntary celibates.  The biological urge for sex is no excuse.  I wonder what kind of childhood these people had.

The insanity plea is tough to pull off here in the States.  I've seen some colorful characters try the insanity plea and fail.  He just needs to take responsibility for the despicable act and serve his time.  Does Canada support the Death Penalty?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Well those guys are incels because they are misogynistic assholes.

Alek has some issues. Apparently he went jogging every day and just stared ahead while running. He didn’t speak to anybody or wave hello. He just ran right by his neighbours.

No we don’t support the death penalty. It’s also rare for us to keep someone in prison for life, although that is getting better. We just opted for consecutive life sentences quite recently. It used to be that if you killed 10 people, you would only get one life term because the 10 murder sentences would be served concurrently, so the convict would get out in 10 years with parole. Paul Bernardo is now up for parole and the families of his victims have to fight to keep him in prison. If his sentence had been consecutive, he’d still be in prison and wouldn’t be eligible yet.

Another thing that I just hinted on is that our “life” sentences used to be 25 years, with the eligibility for parole after 15 years. It was called the faint hope clause. Apparently that got cancelled when we implemented consecutive life sentencing in 2011. Here’s a wiki article explaining our penalities for murder.

However we also have some other lovely facts which make a farce of our legal system. First, a person charged with a crime must have their case heard by a judge within a year of being charged. We have a shortage of judges, so a lot of cases don’t make that deadline and they are simply dismissed! Yes, that can include murder cases, although those are prioritized. Next, the reason I said parole in 10 years is because we have a credit for time served in jails while awaiting trial. The real kicker is that some genius decided that those jails aren’t as nice as prison, so the credit is 2 or 3 times the amount of time actually served!! So if our suspect spends two years awaiting trial, he will be credited with serving 5 or 6 years already and voila! you have parole in 10 years. The credit for time served still exists, although supposedly now you don’t get the opportunity for parole until your sentence is done.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Man, Canada is easy on law breakers.  Luckily for you all, last I heard, the country doesn't have a violence "problem" (so to speak).  America has over 15 thousand murders a year whereas Canada doesn't even have a thousand.  Shit happens, of course (it's human beings, after all), but Canada is doing something right for a stat like that.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Sign in to follow this  

×